Tuesday, March 25, 2014

THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS?

A few years ago Commissioner Franck wanted to look into an earlier closing time for downtown bars except during our ‘season’ from Memorial Day through Labor Day.  Needless to say the rest of the majority Council at the time brushed his idea aside.

Public Safety Commissioner Chris Mathiesen ran on a platform with one of the planks being rolling back the closing time of bars because of serious late night problems.  He was intent on doing something about the problems and police overtime especially that which is focused on Caroline Street.  However, again he met with resistance, this time from the Board of Supervisors whose job it is to approve any earlier closing time for the County as a whole not just 1 town or 1 City. Because of Commissioner Mathiesen’s diligence, Washington and Warren Counties looked at what the cutback in hours would mean for them and the 2 Boards of Supervisor’s did establish earlier closing times.  I think it is time again for Saratoga County to listen to our Commissioner because it is a real problem downtown and not just blow him off because he is from the minority Party.

This brings me to another big problem.  I was at the Council meeting Tuesday night and heard Tom McTygue ask Commissioner Mathiesen what the cost to the City was when SPAC hosts the Phish concerts.  Normally there are 2 per year but in 2014 there will be 3.  Phish fans destroy the State Park rendering it a filthy mess taking Park staff 2 days to clean up.  I also put Dave Matthews in this category but at a slightly lower level of destruction because of their fan draw.  Saratoga pays our Police to handle the crowds and parking, we pay Saratoga County Sheriffs double pay to do the same and we also pay off duty State Troopers double pay and pay for their hotel rooms while they are working here, this year it will be a two night hotel stay.  Saratoga Hospital is also over flowing with legal aged and underage kids who are so drunk that some have almost died from alcohol poisoning drug use.  These fans remind me of the Deadheads who followed the Grateful Dead from venue to venue.  I am glad they love the music but they add nothing to our community for these 2 or 3 night concerts.  They camp out at State Parks or anywhere they can without being roused by the Police or go back home, only to come back the next day.  They do not frequent our hotels or restaurants nor do they shop downtown.  The little we do make is the small amount of sales tax from Burger King or McDonalds and the like, if you want to find out where they spend their money on food, visit the park the day after a concert and you will get an idea.


My question is first of all, why do we use Saratoga Police?  I thought Routes 9 & 50 were State roads, why our ambulances, shouldn’t SPAC have their own?  If they do use Saratoga’s Police and Ambulance shouldn’t SPAC reimburse Saratoga for each call?  SPAC should pick up the tab for the pay and hotel rooms for the State Police, after all it is in a State Park and the Park has its own Police force, why should we pay?  It’s about time we demand SPAC pay its share to Saratoga Springs, with the possibility of no Casino, we will need every penny we can get from wherever we get it from.  I hope the Commissioner provides us with the information he promised us he would and Commissioner, I applaud you for walking downtown to see first hand the late night problems and hope you take a drive on Rt. 50 about 6 the night of one of these concerts and a walk in the State Park the day after to see the problems and junk left by these concert attendees.

12 comments:

  1. the Park police take care of the State park, not the Saratoga Springs Police Dept.

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    1. I agree with you. My problem with the setup is why are our police involved with SPAC and why do we as tax payers have to pay for County and State police aid plus over night costs? The area from Ave. of the Pines down Rt. 9 over to Rt. 50 past the Park woods is State land and is controlled by Park Police. They can even give tickets to those entering the City from Exit 1, and have had road blocks on both Rt.59 & Rt. 9. SPAC should reimburse the City for these costs.

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  2. I do believe that you don't have and open mine. You have a one track mind. I have email you before on true facts and I had never seen them. What is up with that?

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  3. If I had a mine it would be open. I publish everything that can be verified, I will not publish accusations unless you provide the proof of your information. I never consider myself infallible.

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  4. Just think of it as helping the economy. All the cops earn thousands of dollars in overtime, and they spend it here in our area. Same as the firemen who are stationed at the racetrack, doing nothing, earning overtime every day of racing. Same as the police who are stationed on Caroline Street every weekend, sit at the City center for home shows, march in parades, etc.
    Does anyone still think that they volunteer their time?
    Look in your mail. The PBA is asking you for donations, but they no longer tell you where they spend the money that they receive. And they don't even get their letters printed locally anymore, by local printers.
    Some sarcasm in this entry, so just be aware.
    Have a nice day everyone.

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  5. Give a shout out to Dan DeFedericis - Fun in Saratoga blogger - as an ex State Trooper and a Union leader he can explain the why's and how's of the police staffing.....

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    1. I know Dan and I will ask him. I also have a call into NY State Police headquarters.

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  6. The Grateful Dead played SPAC only 4 times 1983-1984-1985-1988 and for one night ONLY each year. Not the same as Phish or DMB who are allowed multi-night runs.
    On a side note the GD were true unequaled inovators musically and culturally while Phish and DMB are merely imitators

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  7. When the fans are stoned, drunk and overdosed, who would even know if the music is innovative, or good. SPAC is headed for trouble.
    For the police, it's like fishing in a Phishbowl -- easy arrests to max out their arrest quotas, and enhancing their own profiles.

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  8. Total BS..you are uninformed

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