Sunday, October 1, 2017

WHEN DOES POWER CORRUPT GOOD PEOPLE

THE CHARTER CHANGE REFERENDUM IS NON PARTISAN. THE ISSUE IS FOR THE CITIZENS OF SARATOGA SPRINGS NOT ANY ONE POLITICAL PARTY

Power starts corrupting good people once they get elected to public office (not all but most).  You can see the difference when men & women run for office  versus the conduct when in office and then how they go back to normal when they leave office.

I met a married couple downtown one day over the summer and got talking about local politics and of course charter change came up.  The couple are relatively new to Saratoga having lived here for about 12 years (carpet baggers to quite a few ‘native’ Saratogians) and they had helped out on Commissioner Madigan’s campaign, how much they didn’t say, but they said that as a person she is like night and day from when she was a candidate.  They said she seems bitter about most things today and when they watch a Council meeting they cannot believe how she treats citizens and fellow Commissioner’s from the Council table.
This couple have an insight most Saratogians don’t, many Saratogian’s didn’t know Madigan before she got elected and like so many elections you get elected either because (a) your opponent did something citizens didn’t like, (b) no one is running against you or (c) your Party is swept in as a group.  B has become the norm in Saratoga politics in recent years and not because everyone is doing a great job.


Take this Council for instance and a single issue CHARTER CHANGE.
Many former Mayors, Commissioners and longtime City Hall employees are heavily behind the movement to change our form of government to a more representative, cost effective and a well managed government where you need not worry about getting kicked out of one Commissioner’s dept. for trying to suggest in getting something done in another Commissioners dept.  What a concept.


The prevailing voting block was most always Madigan, Mathiesen & Scirocco against Franck & Yepsen.  This shifted once Commissioner Matheisen spoke out that it would be in the best interest of all Saratogians and the City itself to approve a change in the form of government. You can visit the Charter Commissions website to view letters to the editor written by past Commissioners and Deputy’s.


 He (Matheisen) has said “The commission form of government has no separate legislative body and no structure for central management. Instead, five different members of the city council are responsible for executive oversight of their respective departments while at the same time serving as at-large legislators, a recipe for serious conflicts of interest. Due to political and personality differences, the five city departments work well together on occasion while at other times not so well. There is much redundancy in operations as the five departments are separate but equal. It is difficult to find candidates for city government due to the increasingly complex nature of each of the five council seats.

The Saratoga Springs Charter Review Commission has given our voters the opportunity think long and hard on what form of local government will best meet the needs of our City today and in the future.”


Well, now the new voting block are Commissioners Franck, Madigan & Scirocco versus Mayor Yepsen & Commissioner Matheisen.  See what happens when you are afraid that the power you have and will continue to get might seep from you and into the citizens hands?
Here is another example:  The Commission early on wanted a separate election for the Charter which was May 30th.  The wailing from the new voting block was heard all the way to the east coast.


Commissioner Franck is quoted in a Feb. 21, 2017 Times Union article from a City Council meeting  "If there is a special election, even if it's to tweak the charter, I'm against it," said Franck. "If it's November, I won't take a side on the charter vote."
Now, here is a quote by Commissioner Franck from a 9/19/17 Council meeting putting his spin on the Proposed Charter.


“Am I missing something? Does anybody outside the planet Mars really believe that one person is going to be able to do all this work?”

Franck took issue with the elimination of the deputy commissioners and asked: if the deputies are eliminated, who is going to do the work to run city government? He threatened to block the funding to send information about the charter change to the public.
“If they cannot do this in a rational and fair manner, and not have material misrepresentations in it, then I’m not going to OK it,” said Franck.



Does this sound like his quote from February?  This trio can see that the power may have a chance to slip away from them and well out with their past promises.  Skip doesn’t sense anytime so when he tries to explain something heads almost always fall asleep as soon as his lips part.  What is coming from Franck and Madigan however is mind boggling.

This trio cannot understand the concept or are just plain acting dumb.  I have heard that other than the Mayor no Commissioner spends 30 hours a week in City Hall running their departments.


Franck , Madigan & Skippy can’t understand that by getting rid of the Deputy’s no one person can do all that work.  Well as many citizens, as I do, understand we already pay a Police Chief to run the Police Dept., we already pay a Fire Chief to run the Fire Dept. and they can report or go over their budget with their boss (City Manager), Why do we need a Deputy of Public Safety?  We already pay a City Assessor to do his departments work and he will answer to the (City Manager) his boss, we already have a paid City Clerk who will guess what?  Answer to his or her boss.  We have a paid Finance Department, we already have 2 paid City Engineers and already pay too much for outside engineers so why not have 1 engineer run DPW and fund the Direct of Public Works whose line is in the budget?  Mr. Vietch’s position was created by Skippy (he says it wasn’t a political move) but you could defund that position and add an office staff person for ½ the salary he is paid. 
So you see we already have the paid employees in place and we will eliminate a layer of middle paid bosses we won’t need.  It will not be 1 person (City Manager) that will have to make up all the work the Deputies do, he will be the City’s CEO overseeing the operation of the City by the already knowledge and capable workers employed by the City already.  Rocket Science, no just common sense that three members of the Council seem to lack.  Does POWER CORRUPT?


Another question to ask yourself as a anon did in the previous post, will you take the word about the costs of savings from a Finance Commissioner whose leadership resulted in a 1.125 million budget shortfall for the fiscal year ending 6/30/17 and who has said she will have to have cutbacks in this year’s budget or a former Senior Vice President of Finance for a Company that does 19 BILLION in sales a year and happens to also be a CPA?  Again, not rocket science.

A times Union article written by Wendy Liberatore on September 28, 2017 quotes some former City officials:

 “A.C. Riley, Saratoga Springs supervisor from 1980 to 1987, and Mayor from 1990 to 1995, agreed.”

“Managing the city isn’t a job for amateurs,” Riley said.  “Everything in our world is getting more complex, including local government. In the old days, most people could fix their own cars, or the kitchen sink. How many people can do that today? We call a professional, someone with training and expertise, so we get good results. Under the new charter, that professional will be our city manager, who will be the leader of all city departments. Our elected city council will make all the important decisions, and direct the manager to carry them out. The charter will require the manager to be educated and experienced in how to read and carry out laws and regulations, how to develop and manage a budget, and how to negotiate with unions. The council will rely on the manager to direct several projects at once and get things done on time.”


Former Mayor Raymond Watkin previously opposed charter change, but now sees things differently.

“I look forward to supporting the campaign to adopt a new city charter,”  Watkin said. “Our city government is unable to keep up with the demand for services from our growing community. In-fighting and a ‘me-first’ attitude among the commissioners has prevented progress on meeting infrastructure, public safety and community needs.”
Another Times Union piece also said this:
“The commission's mailing to city residents won't determine the outcome of the vote, but it's an important part of educating the public.”

“Ms. Madigan and Mr. Franck have all that at their disposal, too, as well as the bully pulpits of their positions. They're free to use them, but not to abuse those positions to unilaterally block the commission from doing its job to inform city residents — an abuse that they might find could be its own case for reform.”

POWER CORRUPTS

For some light entertainment go to http://saratogaspringsny.swagit.com/play/09192017-1334  and listen to the following times
Public Safety  14:55 until you stop laughing at Skippy
Public Safety especially 27:25
Public Safety especially 31:20 – to the end.





Unfortunately not anymore, Michele Madigan offends everyone all the time and it is not funny!

66 comments:

  1. "$460,000 this year should be $500,000 next year" as per commissioner Madagan. That is a 10% increase year after year after year. Not reasonable.

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  2. Please Captian.....Riley and Watkin?. Surely you jest. These two old-timers have no credibility. Time has passed them by.

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    1. Egads, how far back does one have to go? Lenz wanted a change, Klotz doesn't want change today, is he too old for his opinion to matter? I think you must have had a wee bit of the juice.

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  3. Sorry for using this as a comparison, but I forget just how many billions it was that Mr Madoff was managing? How did that happen?

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  4. That is no comparison at all. How about the Finance Commissioner (Rita A. Crundwell) in Dixon IL. who over 20 years 1983 to 2012 embezzled over $57 million dollars, and the admitted operator of what is believed to be the largest municipal fraud in American history. Guess what form of government they had? If you guessed the Commission form you're right. Even in 2014 after this fiasco, no Commissioner or Deputy's wanted to change the form of government. However, a task force, which was formed in the wake of the Rita Crundwell scandal, recommended that citizens be allowed to decide which form of government was best by asking this question: “Shall the city of Dixon adopt the managerial form of municipal government?” By voter referendum passed in November 2014, the city’s managerial form of government was established in City of Dixon.

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  5. I heard that Joe Dalton wants to be deputy Mayor.
    Baker said he will have to wear a skirt.

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    1. Funny, I heard that Baker promised Dalton the position if he is elected.

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  6. Mrs Madigan has announced to her staff and others in city hall that she is prepared to sue anyone talking about her ext affairs with anyone other than her husband.

    Mr Madigan must be so proud!

    With so many people in and out of city hall talking about her activities , that her attorneys will be busy.

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  7. Madigan again gets caught with her hand in the cookie jar with the solar panel fiasco so she blames two people who found she screwed the citizens. She also blasted the Greenbelt Trail and the Times Union who reported the truth. She now blames the FAKE NEWS for reporting the truth.

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  8. Hey Pale Rider:
    Seems like you are a bit pale.
    Your color doesn't look too good.

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  9. Insanity on Broadway- City Hall
    Mr Baker's personnel issues are also flying around city hall these days. He very close relationship ( and I mean very close) with Michelle Madigan has gotten everyone talking about them. He apparently has an older woman as a girl friend and is allegedly cheating on her with Madigan. Rumors have her leaving her husband and converting to the Republican Party. No shock there. She allegedly has had numerous adventures on "the wild-side". I find her conduct in and out of city hall unacceptable

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  10. I have one better than Madigan and Baker. How about Madigan and Franck!

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    1. Does this mean it's old news about Yepsen and Billy?
      Looks like this is turning into the Captain's Enquirer column.

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  11. Hi, do you mean personal issues? While I have no proof of this, City Hall is buzzing about this.

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  12. Do you know who Frank Parillo is? He owns The Saratogian Building, the new hotel on South Broadway, The Hotel behind City Hall, The Bowling Ally on Ballston Ave, The boat works location on Saratoga Lake and many more properties in the surrounding communities.
    He and Madam Madigan have become buddies. He has donated to her campaign and has had discussions about The City renting office space at The Saratogian Building. During their ( Frank Parillo and Madigan) conversations about The City renting from him at The Saratogian, Frank Parillo mentions that he is late on paying his taxes. Madigan assured Frank Parillo that she could wave the fees and penalties for paying late. I wounder if she would waive everyones penalties? I doubt it, and this is illegal!!!
    She has given away city revenue without permission from council.
    I am hoping people demand that she make Frank Perillo to pay those fees and she needs to go back to council for legal action. THIS IS ILLEGAL action by an elected official. SHE MUST RESIGN or face criminal charges. Please call NYS Comptrollers Office

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    1. Maybe you should do some research before making such statements, Mr Parillo pays his taxes in full every year. He's not late on any taxes there for there are no penalties or fees that need to be waived.

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  13. How does Skippy get away with giving free City labor for putting sidewalks in front to Don Braim's house who happens to be a fellow Republican running for Commissioner of Public Safety? Why Skippy's running unopposed and could care less what people think, that's why.

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  14. Madigan is a woman therefore she is having an affair with all the men involved with city politics: Baker, Franck, Scirocco, Mathiesen, Veitch, and Martin. It’s all over City Hall Captain and you’re late to the game. She’s leaving her husband but doesn't know which one to leave him for. Oh the dilemma of a modern day woman in politics.

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    1. No one said that she is having an affair with all men in politics just Mark Baker as it is widely speculated by many in the community and I heard by someone up close to Baker. Madigan has to button up her blouse quicker I was told. This is no reflection on Madigan being a woman as this goes on with many men also. I have never heard anything out of City Hall or from anyone else that Franck, Mathiesen, Veitch or Martin have every had anything but politics come between them and Madigan.

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  15. Please explain to me how Madigan cam waive fees? Pirrello must have some pretty large late fees. He donates to her campaign and get fees waived. Is that legal?

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  16. What does Mr Madigan feel about these accusations?

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    1. Don't know him so I couldn't tell you and I doubt he would tell anyone how he feels.

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  17. Did your guy Altamari put together the fiscal analysis for the charter crap I got in the mail today?
    Doesn't he know the difference between a plus sign and a minus sign? On page three, he puts minus signs on the items that are added to the budget. What a joke. Does anyone believe this charter reform mailing?
    Basic math Captain, basic math.

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    1. Basic Math? I think you need to know how to read the fiscal sheet. The savings by changing over the government form is a total of $698,000.00 then minus out the expenses that will occur (the - signs) and you come up with a net savings of $391,000.00, just what the fiscal sheet says.

      Also in Commissioner Franck's ranting his Myth 1 (which he claims is Altamari's Myth) goes like this and I'm surprised Franck is trying to pull the wool over the voters eyes. His first line that indicates Commissioners put in 1600 hours in City Hall per week works out to 31 hrs. per week. I don't know any Commissioner including Franck except the Mayor that puts in any more than 10 hours a week and even some don't put that in according to department staffs. He indicates that the Deputy's average 381/2 hours a week which I can believe. So in his creative figuring he indicates that 18,000 hours will be trimmed and only be replaced by a City Manager working 2,000 hours a year or 38 1/2 hours a week. If Franck thinks a CEO only works 38 1/2 hours a week he is only fooling himself. Mr. Franck, how many hours a week do you average a year in your business? Altamari has it right as many past Mayors, Commissioners, Deputy's and financial people have said. The City already employees people in the needed positions and they would not have to absorb additional work duties. He knows this but he is relying on the citizens stupidity (which they are not, sorry, Commissioner Franck). We have positions filled already by competent people who are getting the work done. The City Assessor, the City Clerk and the Clerks office, the City Planner, The Police Chief, the Fire Chief, a City Engineer for DPW (we pay 2 City Engineers now), Human Resource Mgr, Recreation Dept. These and more are already in place running their respective departments but instead of reporting to 18,000 hours of paid fat they will be overseen by according to Commissioner of Accounts Franck, CPA only 2,000 hours for a paid qualified professional City Manager. Now look on the City's website under Government and see how many departments we already have , some of which may be switched around to different departments but still will be there. Also on another note we already pay 1 full time and 1 part time City Attorney's but we pay one of the highest dollar amounts for outside attorney fees in the area. Our City Council has had more lost lawsuits and more to come. We also pay very good salaries for 2 City Engineers but we pay one of the highest dollar amounts for outside Engineer fees in the area. Did Mr. Franck show that anywhere in his Mythical explanations? Saratoga Springs as all have said is a beautiful City, a destination place which has grown despite our form of government but the dark hole is in the infrastructure of City Hall and the wishy washy operations of the daily business of City Hall.

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    2. I am saying the fiscal analysis is not basic math. If you use the word "Addition", most intelligent people with average math skills will assume it should be added. Yet you are "adding" the lines that say "Elimination", and putting a minus sign on the items that are to be added. It could have been presented in a much simpler format. Like....basic math.
      p.s. Citizens for charter change seem to get very wordy, unnecessarily so.

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  18. Patricia Robertson’s Letter to the Editor in Sunday’s Saratogian echos many of the citizens sentiments who have watched Council meetings in recent years. The level of hate for the average citizen is increasing especially by a three person group-Commissioners Franck, Madigan & Scirocco and has been made more evident during the past few meetings as they see the City residents are backing the Charter Change more and more. Ms. Robertson goes on to say “By current Charter rules, the Charter Review process must remain independent of any sitting Commissioner’s influence. How else can citizens get an objective review and recommendation? Nonetheless Commissioner Franck demands that the financial data in Charter Commission’s report should be verified against his data. This makes no sense, as it will taint data independently collected during the review process. City attorney Tony Izzo persistently, and correctly, advised the Commissioners to not influence the Charter review process, yet these three Commissioners continue to ignore his counsel.” This may be one reason that lawsuits grow like weeds because of these 3 not listening to the City’s own Lawyer. She also presented the statement which should make every Saratogian stop and think about what goes on in this government “The Commissioner’s obstructionist behavior is further proof that politics must be removed from the City’s operations.” The other problem is what makes anyone think Franck’s figures are gospel?
    As Gordon Boyd (an appointed Charter Commissioner) put it “We need a new charter because economic growth here is outpacing the city government’s ability to keep pace. We are not mobilizing all the talent in our very active community because the electoral system is both daunting and given to insider trading.” This glaring deficiency of our current form of government could be a reason that Accounts Commissioner Franck and Finance Commissioner Madigan put Saratoga citizens in a financial bind with a budget deficit over $1 million dollars in the hole this year, all the while proud that (a.) assessments have stayed the same since Franck has been in office and (b.) Madigan hasn’t raised taxes despite the eroding City income and rising operating costs we incur yearly. Franck should do something about seeing to it that condo owners pay their fair share of the cost of their condo, they are paying way too little and it impacts the rest of the city’s property owners making up the difference that these people don’t pay. It’s too bad we can’t get rid of the both of them but alas they are running unopposed.

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  19. Have you seen the Facebook page Saratogians fight back?

    https://www.facebook.com/Saratogians-Fight-Back-506252432890000/

    Tax Increase, Paid Parking, Madigans Meltdowns, Skippy losing his shit.

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  20. How does Madigan and Scirrocco get to waive fees without council approval?
    Vote these dirt bags out of Office.
    I am not in favor of charter change

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    1. They can waive fees anytime they want without Council approval even though they need it, Skippy waived $1 million dollars in fees for Bonacio and eliminated the water hook-up fees right after that and we end the fiscal year over $1 million dollars short in the budget. You can't vote them out of office no one is running against them, but you're not in favor of charter change so it will keep happening.

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  21. Is there ever going to be a EMS station on the Eastern Plateau of Saratoga Springs?

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    1. The Captain didn't reply to you Richard, because the Captain is so focused on Skippy. He is so focused that he is blind to anything else.
      There will be an EMS station added, but just where it will be is yet to be determined. Don Braim says he has the answers, but he is in for a rude awakening very soon.

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    2. Anon. you are insane if you think I am to anything but Skippy but he is 1 of 2 fools on the Council. Of course there will be an EMS station on the Eastern Plateau but who knows when? The City will have to pay a pretty penny for property and to think they had a offer of a gift for free property and turned it down.

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  22. Since the early 1900’s Saratoga has been using the same form of government we have now. Look at what it has done for our City. We never asked for people from out of town to come here and bring all this charter change crap that has been going on all these years. Those of us who were born and raised here know Saratoga better than any out of towner ever will. If you are not happy here move out. We always were taken care of by the Jasper Nolans, the Roohans, the McTygues , the Waites and other native Saratogians. WE DON”T NEED YOU!

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    1. Amen.
      You avoided the word "carpetbagger" or the word "newcomer" but I will add those words for you. Well done, fellow Saratogian.
      Not Saratoga or Toga, ..... it's Saratoga Springs.

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    2. I was born in Saratoga Hospital in 1959. Tom Roohan is a carpetbagger. Mary Lou Whitney, Michele Riggi, Mayor Yepsen, Mayor Johnson, Mayor Keehn, Mayor Klotz, are all carpetbaggers. John Franck, Chris Mathiesen, Micelle Madigan, Ken Ivins, Richard Wirth,
      GET THE PICTURE? Knucklehead? just because we were born here gives us no special status. After all there weremany DECADES that this town looked like shit! Where was the beloved Commission form of Government then?

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  23. So you are claiming a birth right? You were born in Saratoga Springs and therefore you have an special knowledge and privilege?

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    1. Don't worry, this is the normal thinking of many 'native' Saratogian's, only, if it weren't for "newcomers" Saratoga would probably still be back in the pits of the 60's.

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    2. If this is how natives who are against Charter Change think, we had better change the charter and quick. People cannot choose to what gender, race, religion, or PLACE THEY WERE BORN and it is illegal to discriminate or say that one group has special abilities or understanding because of anyone of these birth rights.
      This thinking is from the 1900's, like the commission form of Government. The thought process here is racist, lacks inclusiveness, diversity, and is supremacist. As long as you are born in Saratoga Springs, you have a special understanding of the town and will be taken care of. If you were not born here, you and your ideas are not welcome. The Nazis claimed this about people who were not born in Germany or part of the Arian Race.
      If this is, what the commission form of Government stands for it cannot go quick enough.

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    3. Sad but true. Many natives especially the older ones will do what the Rep. Party tells them to do because they are used to taking orders from Party leaders and perceived or former 'leaders', this is a hurdle that must be overcome and it is not easy.

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  24. What’s sad but true is this change is about a bunch of new-neo-libs, and Pat Kane - always Pat Kane, moving to Saratoga Springs and telling us how badly we do things. This smug attitude toward our government and it’s people is why we have Trump as President today and why we will continue to have the Commission government on November 8th. Well maybe just maybe, enough smug neo-libs have moved here and Pat Kane has done full on court lying and cheating dance on them, but I believe the good people of Saratoga Springs will vote this down again.

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    1. You are a poster child of Anon 12:41. You fell right into the trap. This issue is bipartisan and if you don't know what that means look it up.

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  25. They moved here, knowing what our form of government was, and they still moved here and loved it here.

    What has changed since they moved here?

    THEY think the grass is greener on the other side, that's what it's all about. So go back to where you came from, or just shut up.

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    1. This is the idiotic mentality you have to deal with here in Saratoga. Saratoga was a 4 week a year City when the races were in town and businesses (Saratogians) gouged visitors by raising prices, until people from all over decided to move here with ideas to make the city what it is now, the form of government had nothing to do with it, it was people.

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    2. I don't think 90% of people who live in Saratoga knows what our form of government is all about and that includes pretty much all who were born & raised here.

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  26. 9:34 AM, Anon:
    Our idiotic mentality has made Saratoga SPRINGS what it is today. You live here, I assume. You must like it here.
    Why are you taking credit for what was already done, BEFORE you moved here, from who knows where.
    It was not the people "from all over" as you so idiotically state. The form of government happened to be the form of government at the time that WE MADE this beautiful city the envy of every city in the entire northeast.

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    1. You are deluding yourself if you think native saratogians made Saratoga what it is today without outside help. Saratoga was a pit before the 1980's and the natives couldn't do anything about it for over 100 years. Saratoga is certainly a beautiful city, one of many in NY and certainly not the envy of every city in the entire northeast.

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  27. Back to Michele Madigan...She is the middle of the shit storm.
    Allegedly Sleeping with Mark Baker, John Franck, and others to get her way. Mr Madigan must be clueless

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  28. The Commission Form of Government and Federal Housing
    The 1960s in Saratoga Springs was marked by a need for change to combat years of previous decline. Saratoga Springs fell into a period of decline after World War II. In comes Federal Government to help get Saratoga back on it's feet. Federal subsidies allowed local governments to invest in urban renewal projects and in turn local governments receive money for public infrastructure.

    A pamphlet created in 1965, “Urban Renewal in Saratoga Springs,” proposed to citizens that “beautiful” and “new houses” were needed in a core area downtown, off Broadway. The Agency distributed 1,000 copies to property owners to provide basic knowledge of “urban renewal.” The main objective as described in a March 24, 1965 article by the Saratogian, was “to provide the plasma to inject the incentive for private investors to revitalize both residential and commercial segments of the heart of the city.
    Investor from NYC and Boston came to Saratoga to rebuild the city.

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    1. Urban Renewal was needed to get the funding to remove some dilapidated 100+ year old homes that were beyond repair. Every city has the same problem, not just Saratoga Springs. There is also the theory that it was a ploy to relocate as many African-Americans out of the prime locations of the city.
      Investors didn't have to come from NYC or Boston to rebuild the city. This is your theory, and yours alone. Prove it, if you can.

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    2. If the theory that it was a ploy to relocate as many African-Americans out of the prime locations of the city then the City government was sick. Urban Renewal was a program to remove blight from a city and many people living here at that time have said that a lot of good was torn down because of the desire of those in charge of the city in those days.

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    3. Urban Renewal was a FEDERAL program. It worked with the needs of the city, but ultimately, the federal govt made the final decisions.

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    4. Urban renewal was also the start of our housing issues here. Most seem to think this is a new issue, but it really isn't. We've been behind on it ever since they re-developed the west side.

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  29. What do you think about the council all getting pinched for the use of eminent domain against another municipality? All five voted for it unanimously.
    I bet that if we had a professional city manager this would not have happened. We should add the cost of this lawsuit to the savings from a new charter.

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  30. Reading the letters to the editor in today’s paper made me chuckle. Remiga Foy a past Commissioner who can’t even remember her name wrote a long piece in the letter section. Her ‘ghost writer’ has taken several sections from her past letters from years ago. Ken Klotz’s reasoning is beyond belief. The inner workings of City Hall appeals to some current and former members of those who ruled from the table and the closer it gets to election the more lies and myth’s will appear in the paper to scare you but the vast majority of past Mayors, Commissioners & Deputy’s along with some current ones acknowledge the current system is broken, it does not work in our best interest. The fear of change is getting so bad that the profanity and rude behavior instead of solid debate being used by opposing members of the current Commissioners (all 3 running unopposed) is becoming quite worrisome because if this doesn’t pass how do we look and believe these 3 Council members?

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    1. Which Deputies (not Deputy's) said the current system is broken? Names please.
      Which Commissioners said the current system is broken?
      Names please.
      Klotz came out for Charter Change, and now he is waffling. Goes to show you, doesn't it?
      AC Dake Riley was a mayor before the internet was invented, and that's pretty old.

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    2. Cap, this guy is either senile or can't read the papers. What difference does it make how old someone is who was in public service making a comment about what he/she knows about how inside city hall functions? Well Mayor Yepsen & her Deputy and Comm. Matheisen & his Deputy are currently for the change and have given the reasons why. Mayor A.C. Riley, Watkin, Keehen are for change, many don't remember that as Mayor Mike Lenz appointed a Commission to look at changing the form and guess who one of his picks was, you got it Pat Kane. Lenz's Commission disbanded after Keehen won the election and now he probably won't admit the real reason he appointed the Commission. Many Republicans are for the change both past and present and that includes many on their committee but cannot say so in public for fear of the 'great Republican machine'. Klotz did come out for change early on as did many Democrats before Franck & Madigan laid the law down.

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  31. Capt., how heavily is the Democratic Party invested in Skippy and how heavily are the Republicans invested in Franck & Madigan?

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  32. Well all you have to do is look at the election choices for the 3 in past years. The Democrats refuse to put anyone up against Skip and in the same vein the Republicans refuse to put anyone up against Franck and Madigan. The Republicans have had very good candidates step up to the plate in past elections to go head to head with Franck & Madigan but have refused to endorse them. It's time for a change.

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  33. The Chairman of the Saratoga Springs City Republican Committee

    http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/ad3/decisions/2008/d-60-08hogan.pdf

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  34. What a Republican Party in Saratoga Springs. The Republican Chair is a disbarred attorney, whose entire family can no longer practice law.
    The top of the ticket is Mark Baker whose personal life is imploding as we speak.
    Mark baker's personal life has caused Senator Kathy Marchoine to completely distance herself from Baker.
    All photos of baker have been removed from her Facebook page. Most high ranking Republicans have received a formal letter denouncing Baker because of his less than ethical behavior.
    Baker's own girlfriend Marti LaDue has confided in many that Baker's Personal life is a mess.
    His campaign material takes about Ethics and Integrity. Yeah Right.
    According to his own girlfriend, Baker has had numerous investigations from NYS Child Protective Service THIS YEAR. CPS is reviewing Baker's conduct with his teenage daughter.
    Ethics and Integrity Yeah Right.
    Baker's behavior of late involves alleged affairs with none other than Commissioner Michele Madigan.
    Baker's girlfriend alleges that the duo of Mark Baker and Michele Madigan regularly meet and have more than campaign conversations. Quite a few sources in City Hall have said that Mrs Madigan is no stranger to extra special friendships with prominent men. Unlike Baker, Mrs Madigan is married and lives with her husband Kevin Madigan. What is going on in City Hall?

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  35. I have lived her my entire life. I have never voted in favor of Charter Change. I AM NOW!!! John Franck and Michele Madigan are acting like complete idiots.
    I wish they had opponents.

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  36. My water in The Crest tastes terrible.

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    1. Move.....far, far away.
      Saratoga is terrible. Go to Corinth.

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  37. Got another political flyer in the mail from Charter Change group. They quoted Gordon Boyd who was complaining about the "old-timers" in Saratoga. I looked at his picture and thought it was a ghost. And he's talking about old-timers, ha ha

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